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Post by alberik on Feb 4, 2010 2:32:18 GMT -8
Maybe Ed is just tired after all these years? I'd settle for anything that he does ... I'd probably fall over and foam at the mouth, or foam at the mouth and fall over, if he did more Nodens stuff ... Ed & Joie ... Ed & Merv ... all three of them ... magic music.
But, no, current lineup doesn't really rock my boat either. I'd much prefer to see Hidria Spacefolk live.
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Post by yiannis on Feb 5, 2010 11:14:47 GMT -8
I would like to have the chance to see the new lineup before I make up my mind. I remember when Schoo first joined the band, before he had gelled with the rest of the band, the shows I saw were not nearly as tight as, say, Pongmasters '02. But with time this line up had moments that were as good as any before them.
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Post by orpheus on Feb 5, 2010 11:26:41 GMT -8
Yes but that line up has Zia, Seaweed, Jon and so on. i.e veteran Ozrics with a good few albums to their credit.
I am not saying the current players are bad or may not gel in a splendid way simply that from the gigs I have heard I am not feeling it. I would love nothing more than for the line up to get tighter and tighter and end up playing band based material on the next album but only time will tell
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Post by yiannis on Feb 5, 2010 11:31:37 GMT -8
I see your point, but I think Ed has always been the mastermind. His sequences, mostly his solos etc. Maybe one of the differences is down to the amount of equipment Seaweed had onstage compared to Silas.
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Post by orpheus on Feb 5, 2010 11:48:34 GMT -8
I think it has been a pretty touchy subject the topic of other people's contributions over the years. I think the writing credits are probably the only accurate indicator of writing contributions but then again even then the amount each person has contributed isn't very clear.
By his own admission ed has always been obsessed with recording and people on here who have known Ed over the years confirm this so it would make sense that Ed has always done the lions share of writing.
I honestly don't think Silas can be compared to Seaweed at this point in time, give Seaweed a single synth and I'm sure he would be coming up with amazing stuff. And by all accounts Silas is primarily a guitarist so his synth style is perhaps a bit formative as yet. No better place for it to grow though than with the Ozrics.
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Post by yiannis on Feb 5, 2010 11:54:47 GMT -8
Silas is a guitarist? Right, I stand corrected, I didn't know that. And yes, at this point in time there's no comparison skills-wise. Would you say that downsizing the live equpments has had an effect on the live sound?
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Post by orpheus on Feb 5, 2010 12:04:49 GMT -8
I'm not sure myself really. I guess having musicians in the lineup that were involved with the albums always made a difference. I just think Seaweed was the last great synth player they had, excepting Ed of course and Joie's involvment since then. And obviously synths are totally integral to the sound and therefore they need a really good synth player for the live lineup.
Kind of something that's not as apparent until they are without one.
I mean, imagine how they would sound with a different guitarist?
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Post by yiannis on Feb 5, 2010 12:17:14 GMT -8
Mentioning guitars, I saw the taste videos recently, thanks to a kind soul on the board, and was astonished to discover that there were gigs up to the early 90s were Ed played only guitar live. I had been under the impression that Ed had been doing live keyboards from as early as '86. His playing on these videos is a bit more varied than the gigs I've seen him at, '97 onwards, it had to be I guess. And Joie was just perfect for this band.
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Post by ozricnutter on Feb 5, 2010 12:27:05 GMT -8
I have said before lets have some dueling guitars.
Lets have a obstacular rendition of Obstacular Explosion.
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Post by orpheus on Feb 5, 2010 12:27:08 GMT -8
Indeed. I think the music is far too busy and involved now for Ed to be bending down and having fun messing with his delay pedal and stuff. I always wondered how they would sound with a guest guitarist with a very different style now and then. Obviously Gavin played in the early days but I mean later gigs.
I don't neccesarily mean a jazz guitarist with a big archtop semi acoustic though!
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Post by yiannis on Feb 5, 2010 12:37:07 GMT -8
I can't imagine that. I mean an equal partnership with another guitarist. Or any other player for the matter.
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Post by kirk on Feb 16, 2010 8:23:37 GMT -8
Electric Violin with Overdrive, Phaser and delay. Thats what I dreamt of, sounded good.
Sort of like Ed Allayne Johnson, Check him out if you've never heard of him, very good sound.
Ed used to Guest in Bradfords Own - New Model Army. Now whatever happened to them ?
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Post by brujoman on Feb 16, 2010 10:11:12 GMT -8
mate,
N.M.A are touring in march (not N.W.A, sorry for confusion).
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Post by sabbracadabra on Feb 18, 2010 1:52:41 GMT -8
Oh deary me, this is almost a joke, no?
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Post by orpheus on Feb 18, 2010 2:03:09 GMT -8
Not the best is it Steve. Compared to the Spice Doubt cd at that
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Post by sabbracadabra on Feb 18, 2010 2:28:33 GMT -8
I mean, what's happening on stage?
Brandi and Silas could of easily played rock paper and scissors with each other.
No wonder Ed looked like he did at the end.
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Post by yiannis on Feb 18, 2010 2:32:06 GMT -8
Ok, I know I sound like a fanboy but I didn't find it that bad. I think I may well have seen less inspired versions with Seaweed and Schoo in the band. Better ones too, of course. What I don't like in this version is the guitar playing, synthwise it's fine and the drumming, though not Merv-, Rad-, or Schoo-like, is solid. I might be having live withdrawal symptoms after all these years I guess.
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Post by sabbracadabra on Feb 18, 2010 2:45:01 GMT -8
Its not a song I play too often.
Its very catchy, but its one of those type of songs (on stage) you just programme in and bingo.
OK, maybe rock, paper & scissors was a bit harsh.
Charades then.
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Post by majikthise on Feb 18, 2010 6:34:34 GMT -8
mate, N.M.A are touring in march (not N.W.A, sorry for confusion). And the new album is a belter! They never "went" anywhere. |
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Post by sabbracadabra on Feb 18, 2010 6:52:25 GMT -8
Not the best is it Steve. Compared to the Spice Doubt cd at that Just playing the said track now Kev, and indeed the whole album. Been a while and need a reminder...  |
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Post by brujoman on Feb 18, 2010 7:06:53 GMT -8
regarding that vid some posted a few posts back, it's funny to see ed wearing a beatles t-shirt!  |
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Post by yiannis on Feb 18, 2010 11:21:50 GMT -8
Is it me or does Ed look like he's not particularly enjoying himself in that clip? And yes the Beatles t is quite a surprise. I wouldn't picture him as a Beatles fan though, could it be that he just happened to put it on before the gig?
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Post by sabbracadabra on Feb 18, 2010 11:28:59 GMT -8
Like I said earlier...'No wonder Ed looked like he did at the end'.
Oh, The Beatles have/had such an impact on folk.
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Post by yiannis on Feb 21, 2010 5:26:53 GMT -8
What do you think of this? I certainly didn't see it coming.
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Post by kirk on Feb 25, 2010 8:16:30 GMT -8
Gawdun Bennet !
The worlds lamest song meets Magic Valley. What next Dissolution VS How much is that doggy in the window. Whover mixed that up needs a head transplant.
Boom Boom indeed.
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Post by alberik on Feb 26, 2010 1:12:59 GMT -8
o.O
It's beyond sad what internet does to people.
And, yes, a head transplant with a coconut. Or a cucumber.
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Post by yogbarogger on Feb 26, 2010 1:37:44 GMT -8
Don't know if this has been posted, but this is a much better "mash-up", Bjork vs. Ozrics
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Post by quinoa on Feb 26, 2010 1:45:35 GMT -8
Ah yes, much better.
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Post by alberik on Feb 26, 2010 1:53:23 GMT -8
Indeed!
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Post by garlicmick on Feb 27, 2010 13:08:44 GMT -8
I Only Have Eyes For You vs Tight Spin. It's gotta be done.
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