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Post by quinoa on Apr 26, 2010 1:40:14 GMT -8
ever heard of fruity loops?
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Post by jpeg on Apr 26, 2010 4:07:00 GMT -8
Orpheus, EZ Drummer is very very very easy to use. And it's so far the best sounding drum simulation i've worked with (I speak about 'real' drums programming, not beats or loops). You should really give it a try.
Superior is better but more difficult to use. It's basically the same thing as EZ Drummer but with much more parameters (you can tune your drumkits, for exemple, which is impossible with the basic EZ Drummer...)
I've used Fruity Loops a long time ago...great little stuff...For those who know Mrs Jynx (http://www.myspace.com/mrsjynx), she works a lot on Fruity and the result is great.
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Post by etherealise on Apr 26, 2010 6:35:38 GMT -8
True that. I use superior, which gives you more flexibility, but EZ would be a good alternative starting point. I haven't tried it but it does sound pretty straightforward and easy to get good sounds without too much fiddling.
You can also expand the sounds- the Funk Masters expansion pack for the EZ line (you can also use these in Superior) has some really nice vintage drums. The realism is pretty amazing, thanks to good software programming and top notch sampling.
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Post by garlicmick on Apr 26, 2010 6:37:01 GMT -8
EZDrummer is a plugin for sequencing apps (Cubase or whatever) though, isn't it? I don't think you use it as a standalone - or not without defeating the purpose of bothering to use a computer. If you're still chaining together preset bars, you might as well get a better drum machine.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
You mainly use pugins like EZDrummer for their multi-mic samples - so that consecutive hits on the same drum / hihat/ whatever sound different like real drums, avoiding the machine gun effect.
The preset midi rhythms sound really good as starting points, but there's nothing like being able to go in and visually drag/sculpt individual hits or entire sections at any time. That part is really quite intuitive and fun. I hate computers and I get away with it. Most of the hassle is hardware and operating systems.
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Post by etherealise on Apr 26, 2010 6:45:07 GMT -8
I believe they have a standalone option: www.thirdtake.com/2007/10/02/toontrack-solo/I think if you're already using a computer, and you have a midi keyboard, it could feasibly be used without editing or sequencing on the computer, although you're right that you wouldn't get the best out of it unless you're playing from an e-kit (it looks like this software is targeted more at live performance) Of course one option, which cuts out a fair bit of the headaches involving computer music recording, is to just use the PC to sequence your midi, and record the audio results onto a separate digital multitrack or whatever. I used to do this and it really is pretty easy, as Midi sequencing is not CPU/RAM intensive like audio recording. But yeah, you're still using a computer, so maybe not for everyone.
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Post by jpeg on Apr 26, 2010 6:54:04 GMT -8
I've never worked with preset rhythms in EZ Drummer (even if they are quite good). You can program what you want where you want, without using them. But you can also drag and drop these presets as midi sections in your sequencer and modify them as much as you like...which is great for beginners in drum sequencing. Really a great app', the first one I saw with such a level of realism & simplicity. I'm also pretty sure you can use it as a standalone...
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Post by garlicmick on Apr 26, 2010 7:53:18 GMT -8
Of course one option, which cuts out a fair bit of the headaches involving computer music recording, is to just use the PC to sequence your midi, and record the audio results onto a separate digital multitrack or whatever. I used to do this and it really is pretty easy, as Midi sequencing is not CPU/RAM intensive like audio recording. But yeah, you're still using a computer, so maybe not for everyone. So did I. Nice easy way to get familarised with sequencing and its advantages. But you can also drag and drop these presets as midi sections in your sequencer and modify them as much as you like...which is great for beginners in drum sequencing. Yeah, but not unless you have a sequencer..
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Post by watermill on Apr 29, 2010 0:12:46 GMT -8
Cheers Orphs, Damien for the links, the starter package is the way to go i think.
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Post by orpheus on Apr 29, 2010 7:14:53 GMT -8
Something to bear in mind would be whether or not you think your daughter will stick with it. With starter packs a lot of the stuff that makes them seem attractive such as strap, plectrums and tuner can be bought seperately fairly cheaply. Some guitars have better resale value than others. Saying that, I'm sure she'll be more likely to stick with it if your house has a good musical atmosphere
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Post by damien on Apr 29, 2010 7:16:09 GMT -8
watermill, your welcome. im looking forward to an inclusion to the "our music " thread from someone from the next generation ... alas no, not Jean-Luc Picard .although that inclusion would be equally awesome
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Post by orpheus on May 2, 2010 4:20:51 GMT -8
ever heard of fruity loops? I have actually been playing with fruity loops this weekend Quinoa. It's pretty easy to use, which makes me think I shouldn't have too hard a time when I try cubase again. Maybe I'm just not as technophobic as I imagine. Anyway, no particular results with fruity loops yet, apart from a couple of short tracks. But I am cracking on and may well get something happening that will require some guitaristic posturing over the top
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Post by watermill on May 11, 2010 23:57:45 GMT -8
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Post by ozrique on May 12, 2010 11:04:42 GMT -8
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Post by watermill on May 14, 2010 2:30:04 GMT -8
I decided against the Roland and went for a Peavey Vypyr 15, heres a picture of it... www.peavey-eu.com/product_detail.php?flag=GB&Ian=UK&key=2413So that along with the Ibanez, leads, case and Guitar strap, all came in at around £400, now I'm skint. Ozrique, that sounded very similar to a band called Gotan Project who also do like latin/tango music mixed with a modern dance beat, mixing the old with the new to make it sound contemporary. You may wanna checkout their website at:- www.gotanproject.comOnce you have opened the link, just click anywhere on the screen to open up the site.
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Post by ev4nh3ym4nn on May 26, 2010 18:36:14 GMT -8
Hey all.
I've finally put some stuff together that i'm proud of, and i'm hoping to get some feedback from OT lovers.
The Ozrics have been my primary musical influence (by far)... if you listen closely you'll probably be able to here many lines directly from OT, and many others that are derivations of...
so, please give a listen.. any feedback would be cool. i'm hoping to perform this stuff soon. cheers.
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Post by ev4nh3ym4nn on May 26, 2010 18:37:38 GMT -8
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Post by orpheus on May 31, 2010 14:46:06 GMT -8
Can't remember if I posted this before and I'm far too decadent to check. A piece by myself and Kirk. kirk recorded a fairly lo fi track of gliss and other stuff some years ago and i recently put it into my multi-track, brightened it up and added synths and more guitar...and some birds. kirk says it does great things when stoned but as I am a clean living kind of guy I wouldn't know
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Post by watermill on Jun 1, 2010 8:20:44 GMT -8
I thought that was quite good guys, it had bit more of an ambient feel than what i'm accustomed to Orphs, although thats no bad thing, as i quite like ambient trance music too. With the tropical bird soundtrack in the background, it resembled Castle Eden from the CD i had off ya, it sprinkled a gaia flavour that i'm quite in tune with at the moment...nice job.
P.S....Orphs, call me an Alphonse if ya like, but i'm open to any more CD's you may have lyin around of your music comnig my way if ya have any spare.
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Post by orpheus on Jun 1, 2010 12:04:32 GMT -8
You most certainly can have some more stuff, Buster. I just need to remember what stuff I haven't yet sent you
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Post by watermill on Jun 1, 2010 22:10:03 GMT -8
Alright Orphs, Heres a list of tunes i have on CD of yours:-
Castle Eden, Catalhoyak, Devotchka, Forest Dweller, Look Deep Into The Parka, Luminescence, Passiflora, Siete Ocho, The Walking Dude, The Wicker Basket, Undergrowth and lastly Yarp.
cheers mate, i'll look forward to listening to some more. I'll PM my address to ya.
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Post by orpheus on Jun 1, 2010 23:39:25 GMT -8
No probs buster. I shall crack on with a disc for you
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Post by nicktoone on Jun 20, 2010 4:17:27 GMT -8
I've just uploaded a new album 'Solitude' to my website www.nicktoone.com. It's the third in my series of ambient soundscape albums. A teaser video is here:
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Post by scifisteve on Jun 21, 2010 0:39:46 GMT -8
Nice, Nick - will have to check that 'un out... --- SPACE ROCThe Nonexistent are Chris Gill (Band Of Rain, Mooch), Andy Hole (Band Of Rain) and Stephen Palmer (Mooch). Chris plays guitar and synth, Andy plays drums, and Steve plays bass and synth. The band play improvised space rock, and began after Chris and Steve discussed the possibility of playing in a jam band. After a promising first session, a number of tracks were recorded for the debut release Space Roc. This album has a rock side (Roc) and a spacey side (Space) illustrating the two aspects of the group. To some of the basic session tracks synths were added, by Chris (session 3 tracks) and by Steve (sessions 1 and 2). The band are currently based in Wales and England. www.myspace.com/thenonexistentgroupOut now from AmbientLive Records
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Post by OTL - the9thtentacle on Jul 2, 2010 6:10:37 GMT -8
if any of you lovers out there wants to collaborate on stuff (long distance jamming!) then get yours-elves over to www.indabamusic.com where we can swap files within sessions that a group of users can all share... oh yer - look for Jaymz OTL when you get there !
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Post by mudfly on Jul 7, 2010 9:46:01 GMT -8
Gonna get involved as im a newbie Im the bass player of 3 piece acoustic groove act, NEWRISING. bounce over and take a peek www.myspace.com/newrisingukPeace x
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Post by orpheus on Jul 17, 2010 1:09:13 GMT -8
Couple of new tunes on myspace, Sonora and You Did it Beautifully
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Post by dominozric on Jul 19, 2010 9:24:50 GMT -8
orpheus and kirk... i LOVE your ambient track with gliss guitar... it's really really nice... played it lots today... just actually added it to my facebook page so all my friends can hear it :0)
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Post by orpheus on Jul 19, 2010 12:52:22 GMT -8
Thanks Dom, glad you like it
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Post by watermill on Jul 20, 2010 0:10:44 GMT -8
Hopefully i should be getting a guitar in october along with a new amp for my birthday, i'll have to add some of my own money to it. A bit like my daughter's birthday, i'm on bit of a budget when it comes to it, i can only really go up to about £400. I'll probably get the same amp as my daughter which is a Peavy and i'm digging through the Ibanez guitar catalogue and checking prices online for a decent guitar around the £300 mark. My daughter's got an Ibanez Xiphos which i'm really impressed with, but i'm after something a little more understated like the GRG range.
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Post by orpheus on Oct 30, 2010 15:48:55 GMT -8
Cover version of Careful With That Axe Eugene on my myspace
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