jwein
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Post by jwein on Jul 13, 2012 4:36:05 GMT -8
Actually i listen to the "Afterwish" Double LP.
It is mainly a compilation of tracks from their early cassette releases, namely from 84-91.
As i can hear, they already used their typically signature sounds (Synth-Arps, Synth-Sequences).
In mid eighties, early nineties how did they do that? I mean, there were no computers available at this time (e.g. Cubase DAW) . As i know, it was only possible to save 1 sequences into the synth (Sequential Circuits Pro One, which they used a lot). How did the manage their sounds and patterns, no midi/sysex in the pro one.
Sure, the Roland D50 (built from 87-89) and Korg Wavestation (90-94) were allready there and got used by the ozrics, but they lack also arp and sequencer).
So my conclusion, they must have used some sort of HW-Sequencer as the central brain for MID capable synths. And the patterns made with the pro one have to be rememberd with notes written down on paper.
Looking forward to some answers
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nickt
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Post by nickt on Jul 13, 2012 7:28:09 GMT -8
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Post by Music247 on Jul 13, 2012 7:59:33 GMT -8
MIDI was rocking nicely on the ATARI 1040 STE (I was using one) and the Commodore Amiga. You could also trigger synths using CV Gate voltages. MIDI was conceived early 80's so it was probably pricey but within reach. machines.hyperreal.org/features/before-midi.htmlI used to use the CV/MIDI converter in a Novation bass station Rack to control and SH-101 worked a treat. That was a really good selling point of that Novation synth (their first one). |
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nickt
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Post by nickt on Jul 13, 2012 16:07:22 GMT -8
Blimey, Commodore Amiga...I had one of them and it was my first sequencing machine. Mind you, it took about 5 different disk changes before the software was loaded. Ahh, happy days.
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Post by 77Pete77 on Jul 14, 2012 0:20:30 GMT -8
In the Sound On Sound inteview with Ed (from '96) that's on g*ogle, there's a bit near the end which is left out from the version on the main page of this site. In it Ed says that he used a Kawai Q80 sequencer prior to the computer. Remember reading something fairly in-depth about the sequencing and converting it all to the Yamaha data filer for live use, but I'm buggered if I can find it again, though in looking for it I found an interesting post on another forum claiming a lot of the synths were 'freehand' and straight to tape in the studio? www.gearslutz.com/board/7297204-post7.html |
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jwein
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Post by jwein on Jul 14, 2012 1:12:30 GMT -8
In the Sound On Sound inteview with Ed (from '96) that's on g*ogle, there's a bit near the end which is left out from the version on the main page of this site. In it Ed says that he used a Kawai Q80 sequencer prior to the computer. Remember reading something fairly in-depth about the sequencing and converting it all to the Yamaha data filer for live use, but I'm buggered if I can find it again, though in looking for it I found an interesting post on another forum claiming a lot of the synths were 'freehand' and straight to tape in the studio? www.gearslutz.com/board/7297204-post7.htmlVery useful. Thanks! I know the SoundonSound Interview. On of the best tech interviews about the Ozrics on the web! Ive missed the part with the Kawai! Damn! Ed also mentioned in this interview that it was a pain programming it. www.soundonsound.com/sos/1996_articles/aug96/ozrictentacles.htmlWith the knowledge that he uses a Roland D50 an Wavestation (both have no onboard sequencer or arp-function) we can say now, that the melody of for example "Eternal Wheel" or similar patterns must have been created with HW-Sequencers. This must be also true for the Pro One, using simply a CV-MIDI Converter. nickt, SAS247 amiga, funny thing! i remember these days too. but used it as a kid for gaming only. Really must learn about CV. Thanks for the links! Greetings from Lake Neusiedl, Austria |
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Post by Music247 on Jul 14, 2012 5:16:42 GMT -8
Sure man I used it for games etc. but then as I got older and more into music etc. the ATARI 1040STE was great as it had MIDI ports built in which was very cool as the AMIGA didn't. I got Cubase and the rest is history as they say. There were some other nuts sequencers like 'BarsandPipes' and 'Octamed'but Cubase revolutionized sequencing by having a horizontal time line which made things a lot easier for musical numpties like me.  How about this for nice GUI:   |
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Post by grimep on Jul 18, 2012 13:04:09 GMT -8
"In mid eighties, early nineties how did they do that?" End of the 80s I was using a Roland MPU-401 MIDI interface on a 286 PC, with a Kenton Midi-to-CV controller interfacing to a Pro-one. Started with a sequencer that came with a book as source code on a floppy which you had to compile! Then moved on to a Voyetra MIDI sequencer on the PC. All on MSDOS too, no fancy GUIs!
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