I've only listened to Phaedra, which I own and can't bring myself to listen to more than once decade roughly, and Alpha Centauri, which I only listened to once or twice. Very old school, the sound of 70s ambient is too crude for my liking. I mean on those few albums plus a Virgin compilation I have. I realise that Kontinuum is about 11 years old so it might be a bit crisper and more defined.
Any suggestions for me Dan? I like it psychedelic and preferably layered. I can't listen to drone stuff for too long either.
Firstly Klaus Schulze has only a fleeting association with TD. He was the drummer on the first album which itself is quite different to their other work. Needless to say I don't care for that album.
As far as TD goes I think Phaedra is a classic, very different from Alpha Centauri which has no sequencers and is a more difficult listen for me. I'm not 100% sure what you mean by droning (whether you mean more that it doesn't change much or more that it is minimalistic with little in the way of rhythm). Regardless it doesn't sound like you enjoy the early stuff and I'd say maybe the later 70's would be a better bet.
In general I'd say TD's stuff tends to have more changes in a piece than Schulze, who often builds on one idea for ages, albeit with layers. Neither approach what I'd consider psychedelic in sound though.
For TD I'd recommend Force Majeure (79) or Tangram (80) or even earlier ones like Stratosfear or Encore (live), which incorporate a bit more variety and some other instruments than Phaedra.
As far as Klaus Schulze goes it's hard - he has a mountain of albums. Personally I favour Picture Music (75) & Body Love II (78) with honourable mentions to Timewind & Moondawn, mid 70s albums. I had some from the 90s but cannot really recommend them. Kontinuum is the best one I've heard in ages but it really is pretty drawn out stuff that takes a long time to do anything.
As far as Berlin School goes I'd highly recommend Ashra's Blackouts. That really is a great album, and Manuel has his own sound.
Hmm... I did find Phaedra psychedelic, just very primitive sounding.
By drone I mean both things you mentioned, but I especially dislike one drawn out sound dominating the track with minimal changes for the whole duration. If it's beatless too I certainly don't have the patience (and attention span) to wait for subtle, barely perceptible changes every five minutes.
I've only listened to one Berlin School artist, Alpha Wave Movement, whom I enjoyed quite a bit. I do prefer his debut album under the Open Canvas alias, Nomadic Impressions though. It's like a lost Nodens Ictus album between The Grove of Selves and Spacelines. Here's a couple of tracks I could find on YT:
Thank you for your recommendations, I will check them out as soon as I'm in the right frame of mind.
Post by etherealise on Jun 28, 2018 4:08:44 GMT -8
I don't have many albums - Structures From Silence, Dreamtime Return & Storm Warning (all quite different) but I have a compilation that I've had kicking around for years and not heard properly... mostly good but I like the sound of the material from Empetus in particular.
I was talking about the rhythm section, I should have said. The drums on Pyramidion are also very similar to it. Ed's drum programming is heavily influenced by them overall I think. Which is a good think because it's really tight and just the right amount of busy for me.
Somebody played this album to me a long time ago and I remember liking it overall, but especially Vollgas Ahoi. I really appreciate the lack of vocals but I miss the psychedelic element in fusion and it often sounds like music for musicians, which I'm not. I tried to have a listen to Romantic Warrior, which I bought in my more adventurous (and more consumerist) days, the other day but I lost focus after a couple of tracks. I was sober, I should add.
I gave away my RTF albums for that reason. I always found Romantic Warrior to be very clinical sounding.
I hear Kraan a bit differently, maybe because I hear the progression of albums. They went more fusionesque by Weiderhoren, but I would call it prog above all, very well executed. That wah wah rhythm guitar sounds a bit psychedelic to me, and quite Ozricy.
Have you heard Kraan live 1975? That's an incredible album...
Although I can obviously see Hawkwind's influence on almost all psychedelic electronic music, I sincerely believe the Ozrics, despite covering less ground musically, are a better band when it comes to sheer psychedelic impact. And this album is one I can't get into as a whole. My favourite 70s studio album by them would probably be Hall of the Mountain Grill.