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Post by yiannis on Sept 12, 2014 11:13:39 GMT -8
I love all Asian and Arabic vocal samples on Ozric and Nodens tracks. They have now become very common in all manner of psychedelic, rock/metal and even lounge music. I wonder though, who was the first musician or band to combine western music with such samples? What I'm actually asking is which western artist first did that. I'm assuming that maybe Indian musicians/composers might have actually done that first, but I'm wondering who in Europe -or America?- thought, Yeah, putting Indian or Arabic singing on this tune will definitely enhance it. Was their music psychedelic at all? If you can, please add YT link. My favourite Ozric tunes of the sort are Myriapod and the chant first (?) used on the studio version of The Throbbe.
Any ideas?
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Post by watermill on Sept 12, 2014 12:17:15 GMT -8
One of the first bands to use indian instruments was the Beatles with the song Love You Too from the album Revolver, and from then on George Harrison immersed himself into indian music and used alot of indian musicians on his solo efforts through the seventies, culminating with the Concert for Bangladesh. Although this might not answer your question on who was the first to use indian samples, as the above answer means actually playing alongside indian musicians and not using samples, but, that did sow the seed for incorporating eastern music into western popular music and thus sampling is just a progression from that. I thought the Ozrics used indian samples really well in Yoy Mandala.
Just thinking outside the box, it may of been someone like Vangelis who could of been one of the first to use indian samples, he did bring out an indian inspired album in the seventies, cant remember what its called now, but I remember the sleeve, it had a close up of an indian woman's eyes on it...wouldn't put it past him to use samples.
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Post by yiannis on Sept 12, 2014 21:45:48 GMT -8
Thanks watermill. I like sitar-driven Beatles songs but I haven't heard Harrison's ones. I was asking about singing though. I reckon exotic singing opens a dimension in the music that is somewhat different from instrumentation. The impact of sound is kind of immediate, whereas singing in an unknown language, they are actually saying something I don't understand, which gives me a very peculiar feeling, sort of, I don't know what they are saying but it sounds spiritual, like revealing a higher truth. This is actually the first time I've tried to put these feelings into words so I might be a bit off. And yes, Yoy Mandala is absolutely immaculate.
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Post by adamguzzardneck on Sept 13, 2014 3:03:38 GMT -8
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Post by yiannis on Sept 13, 2014 4:09:42 GMT -8
Surprisingly I liked that song Adam. Thanks.
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Post by etherealise on Sept 20, 2014 21:16:24 GMT -8
I love all Asian and Arabic vocal samples on Ozric and Nodens tracks. They have now become very common in all manner of psychedelic, rock/metal and even lounge music. I wonder though, who was the first musician or band to combine western music with such samples? What I'm actually asking is which western artist first did that. I'm assuming that maybe Indian musicians/composers might have actually done that first, but I'm wondering who in Europe -or America?- thought, Yeah, putting Indian or Arabic singing on this tune will definitely enhance it. Was their music psychedelic at all? If you can, please add YT link. My favourite Ozric tunes of the sort are Myriapod and the chant first (?) used on the studio version of The Throbbe. Any ideas? Interesting question (which I don't know the answer to) except to say that the vocal in The Throbbe studio version sounds like Jon to me.
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Post by yiannis on Sept 21, 2014 9:23:35 GMT -8
Hmm I wouldn't say so Dan, without being sure. It was used again on Yoy Mandala, it sounds like an authentic chant to my ears. I don't claim any expertise in deciphering Arabic at such a slow speed though.
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Post by etherealise on Sept 23, 2014 17:35:30 GMT -8
Hmm I wouldn't say so Dan, without being sure. It was used again on Yoy Mandala, it sounds like an authentic chant to my ears. I don't claim any expertise in deciphering Arabic at such a slow speed though. Ok, I hadn't realised it re-appeared there. Haven't heard Erpland in a long long time and just had another listen to that part of The Throbbe. Agree it must be a sample as it does sound "authentic" (whatever that means these days). I think I always assumed it was Jon because he did do the occasional vocals/voice part.
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